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When I had first heard of Dalek, I
was automatically interested.
Considering the group was touring in the opening slot
for some of my favorite DJ's, Spooky, Ming & FS
at the Fox Theater in Boulder this summer, I was nowhere
nearly prepared for what I was about to experience.
The beat came out of nowhere with the mathematic precision
of someone who either truly loves their work or just
believes that there is nothing else in existence for
him to do
the emcee stepped to the front of the
stage, sporting a haircut vaguely reminiscent of Mike
Patton's early '90's days. He puts one foot forward
and slowly adds volume and speed to the lyrics, until
it all fits like nothing else in nature - like a storm
constantly molding itself over the rough landscape as
it moves, leaving the landscape changed in a subtle
manner that's difficult to discern, yet undeniable.
Next up, the DJ begins throwing out lightning strikes
wherever he sees fit with a style I've yet to see from
any other turntablist in the land. When I listen close,
I hear what seems to me to be the dark voice of the
inner city alley, the trainyard, or the whisper in the
wind that the street kid hears before he pulls his hood
over his head and starts emptying spraycans out of his
backpack, to lay out more than just graffiti, but to
create art under the cloak of darkness, stepping away,
if only for a moment, from the pressures of the supposed
socially-conscious environment we're all so used to
being smothered by
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I got the opportunity to talk to Will, emcee and frontman
for Dalek, over the phone as they were relaxing for
a moment from their busy tour schedule. Here's how it
went down-
JAYEM CAIN: How is the road treating you?
WILL DALEK: Great, man - this is pretty much
what we do now, just being out on the road, playing
shows, you know; we plan on being out until January
this time around, with a few days off here and there,
but so far it's definitely been good - good responses
to the album, and good responses to the show in general.
JC: How do you feel you have been received?
WD: I think it definitely helps having Ipecac
[Records] behind us, the help they've given us with
the press on our new album, the fact that we have a
new album out, it's all definitely drawing out a lot
more people now. I think that when we first came out,
not that our music is the end-all be-all or anything,
but at the time, I don't think many people were ready
to hear that shit, so we got the people that loved it,
but we also got the people that, you know, it went completely
over their heads, so I think that it's definitely, slowly
but surely coming to a time people are becoming more
accepting to what we're doing.
JC: Where do you draw influence from - music, poets,
film, etc.?
WD: Musically, I think our influences range from
everything from early punk rock, bands like Bad Brains,
Black Flag, Burn, to early hip-hop, like KRS 1, Public
Enemy obviously, Eric B and Rakim, all the early stuff
I grew up with, also Phillip Glass, My Bloody Valentine,
Velvet Underground; lyrically, emcee's like KRS 1 &
chuck D to Pablo Nueva - the thing is , I think all
3 members in the group are just pretty much open to
all forms of art and listen to anything that's out there,
that, to me, is the true essence of what hip-hop has
always been, just to grab everything around you and
make it into something that's your own
.
JC: How long has Dalek been in existence?
WD: We had a different DJ when we first started,
right before we released the first album, which came
out in 98; we kind of started as a studio project, myself
and Oktopus, we recorded that first album and decided
that we wanted to tour on it, and I got a DJ, DJ Wreck,
who was my producer on my last hip-hop group, and kind
of just brought him into the group as a touring dj,
and we toured with him for between 2 and 3 years, then
in about 2000, we met Still, and he's been with us since
then
JC: What about previous projects?
WD: I started as a hip-hop emcee and DJ when
I was 14, I came up doing this stuff after school
I
always held to the analogy that wanting to be a musician
was like wanting to be a cowboy or an astronaut - we're
just stupid kids who don't know when to give up our
childhood dreams. Basically, I just kept going with
that - I've been in countless groups where I was just
an emcee, but Dalek was the first time I started a solo
project. It just kind of grew into a group situation
between the three members in the group now.
It's the first project where I co-produced the music
with my other producer, so it's not that I just only
do the lyrics, and I think you can kind of hear that,
because of how cohesive the lyrics and the music are.
It's not like I just come in and drop lyrics over a
cut, it's definitely a complete vision. Whatever it
may be, this is certainly the best working situation
that I've been in, and there's really no ego between
us - I'll work on 50 tracks, and Oktopus will tell me
that 49 sucked, and that doesn't matter, because I know
that the final product is something that we will all
be proud of, that we'll all be happy with.
It's just a really good working environment - everyone
pulling their own weight, adding in whatever it is they
bring to the table, and it all works out really great.
JC: About the upcoming split w/ kid606 - did you
actually perform/record together, how was the match-up?
WD: Actually, what we did was remix one of his
songs, sent it to him, but we ended up remixing the
remix 2 more times. We added a bonus track on the EP,
an instrumental track that we created ourselves, and
he did the same, so we've never actually worked in the
studio together, but the music that we remixed for him
became like a new song altogether
it's funny,
we met him when he actually was a kid, and now he's
this huge dude, but he's this really good friend of
ours - whenever we'd roll through San Francisco, he'd
show up - that kid tours so much that he's home less
than we are, so pretty much the only kind of collaboration
we can do is when we're bouncing stuff back and forth.
JC: Where did the CD name come from?
WD: The title came to me at a Barnes and Nobles
- I was just walking around inside, and I was really
stuck for a album title, so out of desperation I was
going to buy magnetic poetry, just so I could stare
at words and try to re-arrange them, just some kind
of help because I was completely stuck - it was really
weird, just one of those moments where the title came
out of my mouth all at once, and I was standing in line
with the magnetic poetry in my hands, and it just came
out of my mouth and I was like "whoa"
The cover art is actually something I have hanging in
my home painted by a friend/fan of ours who painted
it while listening to our first record - different cover
art was already in the works at that point, but when
the title came to me, I knew that the painting had to
be on the cover, so as soon as it came to me, I called
up the rest of the guys in the band and they loved it.
JC: What is a griot?
WD: There's definitely a meaning behind the title
and the cover art, but the meaning is more important
to me than it is to spoon-feed it to people, so I would
rather just have people get their own meaning from it,
which is kind of the way I feel about my lyrics, and
most of our music in general. People always ask if there's
a message behind what we're saying, and of course there
is, as there is in all poetry, but we're not the kind
of band that needs to spoon feed our ideologies to people,
and I'd rather have people getting their own meaning
out of things
the Griot is an African poet/story
teller who carries the history of the tribe or group
of people through spoken word narratives and song narratives
that he performs - it's passed down from father to son,
and to me, it represents the fore-father of the emcee.
It's pronounced gree-o (silent t) - I think we have
a tendency to pick words that get mispronounced, like
griots, and dalek, which is actually pronounced Dialek,
and it seems that no matter where we go, it's mispronounced
or misspelled, so it's something we're quite used to.
JC: If there was one piece of art or artist that
changed your life, what or who would it be?
WD: My Bloody Valentine's 'Loveless'. There's
more, but that's a good start.
JC: Why do you think people should listen?
WD: As far as our shows go, just the raw energy
of it- if there's one thing that we are, and that the
music is, it's honest, you know, there's no bullshit
about us, there's no pretension, I'm not putting an
act on for you; if anything, us on stage, the music
- it's just therapy for me. What you hear, what you
see on stage is what you get. Although sometimes I think
I may appear maniacal, in the end, this is what gets
me through everyday life
I mean, we're about making
music, making music is our main goal, and I think that
people who just enjoy music in general, regardless of
genre, should definitely listen to us. If you were listening
to hip-hop back in the day, and granted, our soundscapes
may not be what you would typically term hip-hop, but
hip-hop, in a sense, was always experimental - it was
always about grabbing everything around you and making
it your own.
People sometimes say, "you guys are too rock,"
but how rock are we, when Boogie Down Productions was
coming up sampling 'smoke on the water', how electronic
are we, when Afrika Bambataa is sampling Kraftwerk -
if you are a fan of hip-hop, if you are a fan of high
energy music in general, music that's powerful lyrically
and musically, it's definitely something you should
check out. I think that a lot of what's out there now
is prepackaged and cut up into little genre-shapes to
make it more palatable to general audiences, and that's
not what we are at all. We're definitely a little rough-around
the edges, but I think that's something that people
can appreciate and casually enjoy.
I think I would have to agree with Dalek.
-JAYEM CAIN (Motion For Alliance, Rocky Mountain
Turntable Experiment)
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